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		<title>By: Trey - Swollen Thumb Entertainment</title>
		<link>http://www.howthiswebsitemakesmoney.com/blog/2009/07/07/commenting-on-problogger-does-not-improve-your-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-363</link>
		<dc:creator>Trey - Swollen Thumb Entertainment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 01:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Roman,

I stopped commenting on Problogger almost completely.  The main reason people go and comment on there is the hope that other people will notice the comment and click through to visit their site.

However, when you have so many people vying for attention in the same place, it becomes diluted, and a waste of time.  Plus, I would rather spend my time connecting with other bloggers and having REAL conversations in the comment section instead of stupid crap like 

&quot;Excellent Article, I think I will try this.  Come check out what I wrote this week&quot;.

This annoys me, and by avoiding the sites that tend to have an abundance of these types of comments, I get more enjoyment out of my blogging time, and I feel that I&#039;m not wasting my time.

I will, however, comment on a problogger post if I genuinely feel the need to thank them for the advice, or to offer additional information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Roman,</p>
<p>I stopped commenting on Problogger almost completely.  The main reason people go and comment on there is the hope that other people will notice the comment and click through to visit their site.</p>
<p>However, when you have so many people vying for attention in the same place, it becomes diluted, and a waste of time.  Plus, I would rather spend my time connecting with other bloggers and having REAL conversations in the comment section instead of stupid crap like </p>
<p>&#8220;Excellent Article, I think I will try this.  Come check out what I wrote this week&#8221;.</p>
<p>This annoys me, and by avoiding the sites that tend to have an abundance of these types of comments, I get more enjoyment out of my blogging time, and I feel that I&#8217;m not wasting my time.</p>
<p>I will, however, comment on a problogger post if I genuinely feel the need to thank them for the advice, or to offer additional information.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great work dude. I appreciate the trouble you&#039;ve gone to. I agree the path looks bleak. I want to start a blog.The pros say &quot;write about what you love&quot;. Problem is a million other sites are using those keywords and that puts you at the bottom of the pile. Most of us don&#039;t have the contacts to ever expand to more than a couple of hundred hits. I don&#039;t care about getting rich (OK, I do care) but it would be nice to break even for your time and expenses. Without getting search engine ranking, I don&#039;t see how that&#039;s possible.

But you hang in there. I&#039;ll keep watching and spread the word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great work dude. I appreciate the trouble you&#8217;ve gone to. I agree the path looks bleak. I want to start a blog.The pros say &#8220;write about what you love&#8221;. Problem is a million other sites are using those keywords and that puts you at the bottom of the pile. Most of us don&#8217;t have the contacts to ever expand to more than a couple of hundred hits. I don&#8217;t care about getting rich (OK, I do care) but it would be nice to break even for your time and expenses. Without getting search engine ranking, I don&#8217;t see how that&#8217;s possible.</p>
<p>But you hang in there. I&#8217;ll keep watching and spread the word.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 02:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re not referring to referring to financial reports. What we write about in blogs should be important to us. If it is important to us, then it is likely to be important to others--not everyone.

We&#039;ve all been to movies that sounded like a good idea, but when the lights come up we ponder what went wrong. Was it the acting? Directing? Writing? The truth is that everyone on the show wanted to make a good movie, but so often the money people test the thing to death to the point that the released film falls within a safety zone of reaching the broadest audience. 

What these bean-counters miss is that 100% of those low to medium budget breakout films succeed because it worked as a collaborative effort. From the first to last frame their passion projects on the screen. The passion resonates with the audience.

Blogs are like that. Done by the numbers will eventually even the creator of the blog; much less the reader(s). If you are not passionate about what your writing about, then you better be writing about a topic that churns out new information on a regular basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re not referring to referring to financial reports. What we write about in blogs should be important to us. If it is important to us, then it is likely to be important to others&#8211;not everyone.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve all been to movies that sounded like a good idea, but when the lights come up we ponder what went wrong. Was it the acting? Directing? Writing? The truth is that everyone on the show wanted to make a good movie, but so often the money people test the thing to death to the point that the released film falls within a safety zone of reaching the broadest audience. </p>
<p>What these bean-counters miss is that 100% of those low to medium budget breakout films succeed because it worked as a collaborative effort. From the first to last frame their passion projects on the screen. The passion resonates with the audience.</p>
<p>Blogs are like that. Done by the numbers will eventually even the creator of the blog; much less the reader(s). If you are not passionate about what your writing about, then you better be writing about a topic that churns out new information on a regular basis.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 01:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe another way of looking at this situation, is that blogging is an art, not a science. 
Perhaps it is not possible to simply &quot;take an idea and implement it&quot;.
Perhaps you are supposed to take an idea, and think it through and decide how it can apply to your blog, if at all, and how you should implement your interpretation of the idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe another way of looking at this situation, is that blogging is an art, not a science.<br />
Perhaps it is not possible to simply &#8220;take an idea and implement it&#8221;.<br />
Perhaps you are supposed to take an idea, and think it through and decide how it can apply to your blog, if at all, and how you should implement your interpretation of the idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 00:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think many factors could be at play on this.

A few thoughts:

One that you&#039;ve not covered is the nature of my blog and the type of readers it attracts. My blog&#039;s for beginner bloggers primarily so one would expect their blogs to reflect that.

I find that my blog reader has a life cycle - they usually are new bloggers who read on a daily basis for 3-6 months and who then drop off either because they stop blogging/give up or because they progress beyond the basics and begin to stand more on their own two feet.

I find that bloggers who succeed tend to transition into more of a &#039;lurking&#039; mode - they follow on RSS and only drop by the actual blog less regularly, comment less and use ProBlogger more like a reference tool when they need it than reading every single post.

I&#039;m not claiming that 100% of my readers progress to this - I know a lot do give up, a lot do procrastinate and not put into action what I advise and that perhaps some of what I write isn&#039;t applicable to every blogger - however I suspect that just looking at comments isn&#039;t going to give you a really accurate reflection on whether my blog helps people. In fact my stats show me that less than a quarter of a percent of my readers leave comments - perhaps those that do represent a certain type of blogger?

Not really sure - all I can say is that in my experience most bloggers give up too early, get distracted or become obsessed with one part of their blog rather than working holistically on a blog like I advise. For some this means that they rarely actually write posts, for others it means that they focus more upon SEO or monetization, or design than some of the other important areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think many factors could be at play on this.</p>
<p>A few thoughts:</p>
<p>One that you&#8217;ve not covered is the nature of my blog and the type of readers it attracts. My blog&#8217;s for beginner bloggers primarily so one would expect their blogs to reflect that.</p>
<p>I find that my blog reader has a life cycle &#8211; they usually are new bloggers who read on a daily basis for 3-6 months and who then drop off either because they stop blogging/give up or because they progress beyond the basics and begin to stand more on their own two feet.</p>
<p>I find that bloggers who succeed tend to transition into more of a &#8216;lurking&#8217; mode &#8211; they follow on RSS and only drop by the actual blog less regularly, comment less and use ProBlogger more like a reference tool when they need it than reading every single post.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not claiming that 100% of my readers progress to this &#8211; I know a lot do give up, a lot do procrastinate and not put into action what I advise and that perhaps some of what I write isn&#8217;t applicable to every blogger &#8211; however I suspect that just looking at comments isn&#8217;t going to give you a really accurate reflection on whether my blog helps people. In fact my stats show me that less than a quarter of a percent of my readers leave comments &#8211; perhaps those that do represent a certain type of blogger?</p>
<p>Not really sure &#8211; all I can say is that in my experience most bloggers give up too early, get distracted or become obsessed with one part of their blog rather than working holistically on a blog like I advise. For some this means that they rarely actually write posts, for others it means that they focus more upon SEO or monetization, or design than some of the other important areas.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike's Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Proof that Content is the Most Important aspect of Blogging...&lt;/strong&gt;

I read Roman’s slightly depressing post today “Commenting on Problogger does not improve your blog.” In it he has spent some quite considerable time researching commentators on Darren’s blog from six months ago to see if their traffic has signi...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Proof that Content is the Most Important aspect of Blogging&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I read Roman’s slightly depressing post today “Commenting on Problogger does not improve your blog.” In it he has spent some quite considerable time researching commentators on Darren’s blog from six months ago to see if their traffic has signi&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Richard B.</title>
		<link>http://www.howthiswebsitemakesmoney.com/blog/2009/07/07/commenting-on-problogger-does-not-improve-your-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-341</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article that is logical and well thought out. It sort of reminds me of a comment that is attributed to Groucho Marks, &quot;Dissecting humor is like dissecting a frog; it dies in the process.&quot; Having worked in the entertainment business during the period bean counters seized control of what movies were green lighted, I assure you that appealing to the public by logic does not make for a block buster hit.

What makes for a hit? More often than not it comes down to passion the creators and caretakers have for the project. A producer said it best when I told him that I liked his show that had just premired the night before. He grimmiced at my comment the said, &quot;That&#039;s the problem. People like the show and that means death.&quot; Still green in the business I asked him what was wrong with people &#039;liking&#039; his show. His answered changed my thinking about what is good entertainment, &quot;When people like a show it means death because they don&#039;t feel compelled to watch it. Passion is what hooks them in. Love it or hate it they talk about the show and that&#039;s good.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article that is logical and well thought out. It sort of reminds me of a comment that is attributed to Groucho Marks, &#8220;Dissecting humor is like dissecting a frog; it dies in the process.&#8221; Having worked in the entertainment business during the period bean counters seized control of what movies were green lighted, I assure you that appealing to the public by logic does not make for a block buster hit.</p>
<p>What makes for a hit? More often than not it comes down to passion the creators and caretakers have for the project. A producer said it best when I told him that I liked his show that had just premired the night before. He grimmiced at my comment the said, &#8220;That&#8217;s the problem. People like the show and that means death.&#8221; Still green in the business I asked him what was wrong with people &#8216;liking&#8217; his show. His answered changed my thinking about what is good entertainment, &#8220;When people like a show it means death because they don&#8217;t feel compelled to watch it. Passion is what hooks them in. Love it or hate it they talk about the show and that&#8217;s good.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike CJ</title>
		<link>http://www.howthiswebsitemakesmoney.com/blog/2009/07/07/commenting-on-problogger-does-not-improve-your-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-340</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for coming back to me Roman. The stats comparison is very interesting. I&#039;m going to post about this conversation later today for my readers, so will reference your site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for coming back to me Roman. The stats comparison is very interesting. I&#8217;m going to post about this conversation later today for my readers, so will reference your site.</p>
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		<title>By: roman</title>
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		<dc:creator>roman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 08:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, you are right – I need more posts.  We started at the same time and you have 237 posts while I only have 31.  Which most likely explains your much better daily traffic stat.  You state that you get 500 visitors a day...that is interesting:

You have 8 times the amount of posts as me (237/31) and you have 8 times that amount of traffic as me (500/60).  Maybe those A bloggers (and you) have a point :)

The point of this post was not suppose to be depressing.  It is just pointing out that statistically there is no difference between Problogger visitors who read Problogger&#039;s advice yesterday or a year ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, you are right – I need more posts.  We started at the same time and you have 237 posts while I only have 31.  Which most likely explains your much better daily traffic stat.  You state that you get 500 visitors a day&#8230;that is interesting:</p>
<p>You have 8 times the amount of posts as me (237/31) and you have 8 times that amount of traffic as me (500/60).  Maybe those A bloggers (and you) have a point <img src='http://www.howthiswebsitemakesmoney.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The point of this post was not suppose to be depressing.  It is just pointing out that statistically there is no difference between Problogger visitors who read Problogger&#8217;s advice yesterday or a year ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike CJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 07:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting, although somewhat depressing post, Roman. I can&#039;t help thinking that you are missing the point. Something Darren, and all the other A list bloggers repeat is that the most important success factor for a blog is content. Commenting on other blogs, using Twitter well or having great SEO will not get you increased traffic unless the content warrants it.

As you know, I also started my main blog just over six months ago. It is currently getting more than 500 visitors per day. Since I started it I have written 237 posts (almost 40 a month, or more than one per day) and I suspect that&#039;s the reason why it&#039;s succeeding in the time period where so many others have failed.

It might be worth investigating how many posts each of the sites in your survey have done to check that connection. On the other hand, maybe invest that time in writing more posts on here to start to increase the traffic :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting, although somewhat depressing post, Roman. I can&#8217;t help thinking that you are missing the point. Something Darren, and all the other A list bloggers repeat is that the most important success factor for a blog is content. Commenting on other blogs, using Twitter well or having great SEO will not get you increased traffic unless the content warrants it.</p>
<p>As you know, I also started my main blog just over six months ago. It is currently getting more than 500 visitors per day. Since I started it I have written 237 posts (almost 40 a month, or more than one per day) and I suspect that&#8217;s the reason why it&#8217;s succeeding in the time period where so many others have failed.</p>
<p>It might be worth investigating how many posts each of the sites in your survey have done to check that connection. On the other hand, maybe invest that time in writing more posts on here to start to increase the traffic <img src='http://www.howthiswebsitemakesmoney.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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